A silly little blog for me to drop the excrement of my mind.
-or- a collective bad attitude
Published on July 22, 2006 By BlueDev In Blogging

It is interesting. 

In the past, when my time here was very regular, I had a pretty good finger on the pulse of JU.  I knew who really got along with who, those who hated each other, those who loved to argue but were congenial at the end of the day, etc.

In short, I was pretty well informed when it came to the net soap operas that sprung up from time to time.

Lately, though, that is not really the case.  My diminished time spent here keeps me from reading all that much.  I hit those who I follow (a list which has become smaller and smaller with increasing responsibility) and catch titles that really interest me.  In short, I miss a lot.

And while I have missed the reasons as to why, I haven't missed the generally pissy attitude here lately.  And it seems to be focused on some of the more prominent members.

We have the pretty open and transparent bashes of others.  Good old flames for flame's sake.  Then we have the hints suggestions and innuendo articles.  Pretty lame attempts at taking jabs at others, without the balls to actually come out and just be a prick.  Those are the ones that make me laugh.

Then we have others who seem to be taking comments here far too personally in my opinion, almost as if they are looking for a reason to take offense.  And then you have the real pompous windbags, such as myself, who blog about it all.  Ain't I a jackass?

Some bashing, some feinting, some whining, some complaining.  All part of the melodrama of the online world. 

Wheels within wheels, in a spiral array, a pattern so grand and complex . . .


Comments
on Jul 22, 2006

I don't base my self-worth on what other JUsers think of me, so if nothing else, you can always count on me to say exactly what I think, whether others agree with me or not.

Frankly, I appreciate that.  One always knows where they stand with you LW, because you won't beat around the bush.  Like I said in the article, and open honest flame, that recognizes itself as such, is quite refreshing.

on Jul 22, 2006
I'm pretty regular here at JU and I still miss loads. I stumble across threads that are having a go at someone and wonder to myself how the hell did this start?? It's like trash tv...you know you shouldn't watch, but you just can't turn away. I just grab my popcorn and enjoy the show. I'm simple, and easily pleased, hehe!

I think some folk enjoy these little disagreements, and though I have witnessed a few and I still walk away wondering what it is about, I hve to give the majority of people here credit, and they do generally end up sorting out their problems. It's just part of the community, and where would be the fun if we all got along, all of the time? I think I might go and write myself a flame thread....who want's a fight?
on Jul 22, 2006
I try to stay out of the dramas. I understand what you're saying but I think there have been times that JU was much pissier. Sometimes half of the articles on the sidebar were all people ripping on each other. Now it's only one or two at a time.
on Jul 22, 2006
i miss every little thing that goes on, it seems. it's still funny, but there's no point in taking sides, so i usually just sit back and watch it all fall into place however it goes...

i've yet to flame anyone, but that's just 'cause i'm so sweet.

(and fairly inebriated at times... hehehe)
on Jul 23, 2006

I understand what you're saying but I think there have been times that JU was much pissier

No doubt about that Locamama.  But I had noticed that a number of those who, in the past, all "had each other's backs" are now trying to stab each other there.

i've yet to flame anyone, but that's just 'cause i'm so sweet.

Ain't that the truth Nicky!  Though I bet if you wanted to flame, you could do so with great skill.

It's like trash tv...you know you shouldn't watch, but you just can't turn away.

No kidding Sally.  But I would love to see you get in the middle of it.  Break that nice girl persona just once.

on Jul 23, 2006

No kidding Sally. But I would love to see you get in the middle of it. Break that nice girl persona just once.

...ok here goes *ahem*....are you calling me nice?  Are you?  No one has ever insulted me in such a way in all my days!  The bloody cheek of it....well you my friend...errr....you smell!  So there!  *stomps off and writes a flame thread at Bluedev and the cheek of people who dare to call me NICE*

So erm..how did I do?

I have noticed that the majority of people here, and certainly those who I bother to read and respond to are perfectly capable of accepting other peoples opinions, they put their point across, you read it and you don't have to agree, but you can choose to respect it, and for the most part people do.  However, the only time this doesn't seem to work is when people bring their political beliefs, and differences into discussions, and here this seems to be where many of the arguments start.  I guess when people feel so passionately about something they feel they have to fight their corners.  Some are just better at doing it than others.  There is an art to arguing!

on Jul 23, 2006

I can see where you are coming from.  But it seems that some take everything I say as a reference to themselves.  I cannot help that.  But I dont have to play along.  When I do blog of the other, I make no bones about it.  As anyone reading me can easily discern.  However, when I blog about the blue sky, they think I am talking about them.

Guess they always will.  As I follow the dictum "Black listed - I wont read or comment on yours", I really dont know what her problem is.  But I am sure they are going to find some way to turn my next one into a barb at themselves.

Sad really that they feel so strongly they must defend themselves against windmills when the windmills are just there - and not attacking.

on Jul 23, 2006

Sally: That was, er, um, well, pretty weak.    I am sure you have better in you!

I can see where you are coming from.

Actually, I'm not sure you can.  To be frank, a number of your recent articles are either thinly veiled attempts at baiting, or just plain piss-poor writing as compared to your standard fare.  At least that is how they read to an outsider.  Pointless, aimless, nearly incoherent and inconsistent ramblings about fly fishing.  Sorry, I'm not buying it.  You are, of course, free to write whatever you want, it doesn't matter to me.  And I am not trying to insult you by stating the above.  Just calling like I see it.

Perhaps I, too, am seeing those windmills from afar.  If so, no problem, as it doesn't really bother me what you choose to write about.  But they are certainly inconsistent articles, to say the least.

 

on Jul 23, 2006

Perhaps I, too, am seeing those windmills from afar. If so, no problem, as it doesn't really bother me what you choose to write about. But they are certainly inconsistent articles, to say the least.

I have written about lot of subjects.  I guess you have not read my full repetoire.  I write about what I like to write about, not what I think others want to read.  If that is a baiter, then fine I am one.  I am sorry you feel that way.  But my articles are open to perusal so you can look at what I have been writing about and see that it is not all about politics or any single subject.

But that is me.  SO no, I dont see where you are coming from.  I write from experience, opinion, yearnings and life.  You are free to disagree with me.  And I guess you do.  But then that is what JU is all about.

personally, as I said, unless I address the subject, I am writing about my life.  I cant see how my view of fly fishing is poor or incoherant.  Just a fisherman's ramblings.

on Jul 23, 2006
Guy: Since we color everything we read with our own experiences and opinions, I suppose it is no big surprise that I read it differently that what you profess it to be.  No big deal.
on Jul 23, 2006
You know, I really don't care for the pissing contests, frankly. Thankfully, I seem to miss a lot of why these start and I got be honest and say I'm glad I do. As Sally said, most of us respect each other's opinions, whether we agree or disagree. Some folk like a good argument, though, so there is always going to be some drama going on between different folk. It is just their nature.
on Jul 24, 2006
I've stayed away from flame articles, at least the ones that are blaringly obvious. If there's even a hint that a article is a flame under cover I hope that I can see it but truthfully sometimes I don't because how would I know?

I don't think it's nice for someone to keep making digs at someone else without coming out and saying what the problem really is. Otherwise what choice does the other person has than to come out fighting in defense of themselves? I really wish that there would be a really good thrash out article and response on the same blog, It's quite obvious that there is a bone of contention there and beating around the bush doesn't clear the air.

on Jul 25, 2006

You know, I really don't care for the pissing contests, frankly.

I dislike them as well.  Sure, they have some entertainment value, but I have already written about that.  But, more than anything, I hate people who try to deny they are in the middle of the contest, when the piss is all over them.

I really wish that there would be a really good thrash out article and response on the same blog, It's quite obvious that there is a bone of contention there and beating around the bush doesn't clear the air.

I agree.  Just have it out and be done with it.

on Jul 25, 2006
I've tried, Dev, but some people would rather cling to their coyness, though for the life of me I cannot understand why.
Oh, I know you have LW. As I mentioned, I don't think you have every been guilty of playing coy with someone.