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Published on January 24, 2007 By BlueDev In Misc

I have previously pondered the subject of pimping in medical education.  As much as I may not like it, I recognize that it is a time honored tradition in medical education.  As such, I expect it, and even respect it just a bit (that is the masochist in me speaking).

However, lately I have experienced an aspect of pimping I could do without.  Let me set the stage.

I present a patient.  On trauma, many of our patients can be rather complex, as they often have injuries affecting multiple systems/organs.  Prior to (or just after) entering a patient's room, the attending physician asks a question.  Not an easy question.  Rather, a pretty tough one.  I think (brain running as fast as possible: the boss is expecting an answer 2 seconds ago), reason through the pathophysiology as fast as I can, and come up with a possible answer.

Of course, my answer is wrong.  So I start coming up with another possibility.  Wrong again.  Finally I have to concede.  "I'm sorry sir, I don't know."  And what does the attending say?

"I don't know either."

Gah, I just mini-stressed myself out, wracking my mind for an answer and the boss doesn't even have one.  Sometimes it gets better.  "I don't think there is a known answer to that question."  Well, at least it wasn't a defecit in my knowledge.  That is my little victory in the entire thing.  I suppose that should make me feel better.

But I hate to feel stupid in front of the whole team when there is no answer to the question I was just asked. 


Comments
on Jan 24, 2007
That's just wrong.

Reminds me of when I wake the kids up on Saturday morning all frantic and tell them they are late for school. Haha.
on Jan 24, 2007
Ha. What a jerkface.

Just think though . . . someday, if you want to, you can do the SAME THING.

Why do you think I want to be a professor? Torture those poor shmucks, man, just to torture them.
on Jan 24, 2007
Reminds me of when I wake the kids up on Saturday morning all frantic and tell them they are late for school. Haha.


You know, Texas...you just showed me probably the biggest downside to homeschooling I've ever heard...I can't pull that on mine.

S'ok, though. There are tradeoffs!
on Jan 24, 2007
That's why I want to be a zookeeper...animals never mock you...except for those damn monkeys...

~Zoo
on Jan 24, 2007
Actually it was probably an excellent question. Sometimes it can be difficult to simply admit "I don't know". I would imagine the "I don't know" would happen a lot in the medical profession.
on Jan 24, 2007
That's why I want to be a zookeeper...animals never mock you...except for those damn monkeys...


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That is frustrating Peter!
on Jan 24, 2007
Thanks a lot bro. You've triggered all kinds of memories that I've been burying for the last 25 years.   

It's like medicine has to be some kind of macho rite of passage like walking over hot coals so you too can be a "man". Things sure haven't changed. Oh well. Say the serenity prayer, I guess.
on Jan 25, 2007
What a bugger of trick to pull. As if you didn't have enought to stress you out already...
on Jan 25, 2007

Reminds me of when I wake the kids up on Saturday morning all frantic and tell them they are late for school.

Now that's just mean!

Just think though . . . someday, if you want to, you can do the SAME THING.

I doubt it.  I don't plan on staying in the academic medicine setting.

animals never mock you...except for those damn monkeys...

I don't know man.  Animals can be pretty sneaky.  Or so the movies tell me.

on Jan 25, 2007
Perhaps humility is the point of the exercise? Sometimes the best thing you can admit is that you know nothing!


Maybe, but it seems like an excercise where people are taught to second guess their judgement in a negative way. If they're flat out wrong, then say so. Don't even candy coat it. But if there is no answer, then why not give credit for a well thought out answerl.

And, like Dr, D wrote-- major ego building and breaking.
on Jan 25, 2007

Actually it was probably an excellent question. Sometimes it can be difficult to simply admit "I don't know". I would imagine the "I don't know" would happen a lot in the medical profession.

Perhaps humility is the point of the exercise? Sometimes the best thing you can admit is that you know nothing!

Actually, I don't disagree with either of you.  It serves a purpose, I was just whining that I don't care for it.  But hey, I have had plenty of practice saying "I don't know".

What a bugger of trick to pull. As if you didn't have enought to stress you out already...

Fortunately it isn't a big stress, just a little, frequent one.  You just sort of roll with it.

Thanks a lot bro. You've triggered all kinds of memories that I've been burying for the last 25 years.

It's like medicine has to be some kind of macho rite of passage like walking over hot coals so you too can be a "man". Things sure haven't changed. Oh well. Say the serenity prayer, I guess.

Heh!  I do what I can.  I do think you have a point though.  There most certainly is an attitude in medicine of having to prove yourself and go through the fire just because the previous generation did so.  Part and parcel of the game I suppose.