A silly little blog for me to drop the excrement of my mind.
-or- stand up and fight
Published on February 1, 2007 By BlueDev In Misc
Stand your ground, don't back down.

Sometimes you have no choice.  Sure, you have to pick your fights, or you will just burn out.  But sometimes you have to fight.  You have to push, pull, coerce and convince.  Sometimes it just ain't right that the patient stays another day.  Case in point: a patient we admitted just the other day.

She was a trauma.  Accident on the slopes.  No major injuries, just some bumps and bruises.  But the head CT showed a very small, questionable spot that might or might not be a head bleed.  You know, such is the way Radiology covers their cans.  "Likely nothing important, but cannot rule out blah, blah, blah."  The medical speak of our modern, litigious society. 

They saw it, which means we have to investigate it. 

Neurosurgery is consulted.  The morning after admission, the patient is fine, her confusion has cleared and realistically she needs to leave.  But she is crying like a baby, demanding IV narcotics.  I tell her she can have one dose, then will need to stick to oral stuff.  We get the social worker involved because, honestly, the story is fishy and crazy.  She will need a ride down to NY.  There is no way I have the time and resources to work this out.  God bless the social workers.  Because she has so far to travel, and it is getting to be late in the afternoon, I tell her she can stay the night, but will leave in the morning.

Over night, she continues to demand IV narcotics.  I have instructed nursing to absolutely refuse.  In fact, her IV comes out.  I walk in this morning and she is a mess.  Begging for IV narcotics, acting confused, just playing it up.  I tell her she will leave as soon as she has a ride.  She throws up the wall of "But I have to know what is going on in my brain!"

I snap.  A controlled snap, but a snap nonetheless.

"No you don't.  You don't need to know because we can't know for sure.  We can take pictures of your head, make our best guesses, but the only way to know for sure what is going on in there is to cut open your skull and remove a piece of your brain.  Do you really want me to ask Neurosurgery to cut out part of your brain just to satisfy your curiosity?"

"I guess not," she replies sheepishly.

"Right answer."  I walk out.  I can't take it anymore.  She is borderline personality disorder, no question.  There is a reason Psychiatrists won't treat borderline patients.  Push comes to shove, she balks, says she can't leave, but I have already written the discharge order.  Nursing plays hardball.  They call Security and Risk Management (aka the lawyers) and, yes, in fact, we can make her leave.

So leave she does.  Against her will, but it is the right thing.  Someone who is actually sick needs that bed, that nurse, and our attention.  Not her.

Coercion.  Sometimes you just have to push.  And push hard.
Comments
on Feb 01, 2007
An interesting companion piece to the "Capitulation" article.

Through your experience, each time I hear these things, two things happen:

1. I respect doctors generally, and you specifically, a lot more.
2. I'm very, very glad that I'm not going into medicine.

I'll stick to academia.
on Feb 01, 2007

An interesting companion piece to the "Capitulation" article.

Thanks bro.  It sort of struck me that way as well.  On the one hand we had a patient who we had to just let her dictate what was going to happen (to a certain degree), and on the other we had to get a little nasty.  Life is full of these sorts of dichotomies.

Thanks for your kind comment.  I think you will enjoy academia more! 

on Feb 01, 2007
you know life would be a blast if it weren't for the people sometimes....ya know?

You did good.

on Feb 01, 2007

you know life would be a blast if it weren't for the people sometimes....ya know?

They are the boon and bane of life.  I went into medicine because of the people.  And it is because of the people that some days I regret going into medicine.  Good thing the positive outweighs the negative.

on Feb 01, 2007
Good thing the positive outweighs the negative.


Or you would've wasted lots of time and money!
on Feb 01, 2007
Phew, man, I do not want your job, not for all the money in the world. As your brother said, this is an interesting piece next to your coercion article. But really, aint life like this too? Some days you let 'em get away with it, some days you don't.

Have a good weekend, mate.
on Feb 01, 2007
I don't know whether these are recent events, but it's a full moon tomorrow. Wow, two possible borderline personality disorders blogged on the same day. One of the keys to care in situations like this is avoiding fragmentation of care, ie. involving the usual pharmacist, family doctor and family to get a better picture of the patient's history and to involve them (with patient's consent of course) in their care.

That said, I often feel like I'm the one going insane when trying to see to the needs of borderlines. I keep reminding myself that when I do say "no" I am being loving, not hurtful toward these clients. Courts and medical boards usually understand this distinction.

Very interesting posts. Thanks.
on Feb 02, 2007

Some days you let 'em get away with it, some days you don't.

I think being able to roll with the punches is one of the most valuable lessons I am learning.  Then balancing it out with when to push back, it is an interesting tight-rope.

I don't know whether these are recent events

Yep, the previous article was the beginning of the week, this one was the end.

One of the keys to care in situations like this is avoiding fragmentation of care, ie. involving the usual pharmacist, family doctor and family to get a better picture of the patient's history and to involve them (with patient's consent of course) in their care.

That would have been nice in this situation.  Unfortunately, there was a lot that didn't add up.  So we were left trying to figure things out on our own.

on Feb 04, 2007
An interesting companion piece to the "Capitulation" article.


I agree!


Life certainly isn't boring at the hospital uh?!