A silly little blog for me to drop the excrement of my mind.
-or- How could we ever forget?
Published on June 1, 2004 By BlueDev In Blogging
This will probably make me unpopular with certain folks and factions here, but that is okay with me. I need to write this, if for no one else, then just for me.

Just make sure you remember, none of us pay to be here. Okay? We aren't customers here, just free-loaders leeching off the generosity of Brad.

As if we could possibly forget.

Maybe it is just me. Maybe I have some sort of weird radar for picking this stuff up. Maybe we are just being reminded of this fact on a painfully frequent basis. Whatever the case may be, I have noticed comments from admins (and some "guests") to this effect running rampant in replies lately. And to be quite honest I cannot for the life of me understand why.

It usually seems to pop up when folks start whining about "freedom of speech" or some such nonsense. It also often is dragged out when some "guest" questions Brad or vilifies him for some reason. Don't get me wrong, I quite agree that this is one person's site and should run according to his rules. And yes, bashing and saying malicious things about the admin on any site is just poor form and downright stupid. So, you see, I don't sympathize with idiots who seem to feel some sort of entitlement in their being here.

But what good does it do? Reminding those same idiots that they blog here for free isn't going to do anything. Simple fact - you can't reason with the stupid. And reminding them you are providing a free service to them is going to simply fall on deaf ears.

And speaking strictly for myself, as one who understands fully that this is a free service and is both grateful and respectful of that, such comments only come across as insulting.

After all, as we have so recently been reminded, JoeUser doesn't need any of us, and the admins don't care who comes and goes, stays and jumps ship. Again, that is fine with me. If I really wanted to blog that bad I could always go to one of the many other free blog sites and post my mental excrement there. But that seems to beg the question why even open it up to the public? If having folks here is such a burden that we have to be put back into our place on nearly a daily basis by being reminded that we are free-loading scumbags who have no rights because we aren't paying to be here, why even bother?

It most certainly cannot be due to some sense of altruism, as the numerous comments discussed in this entry would really argue against that. People who do things for altruistic purposes don't normally feel the need to remind people of the service they are providing, demanding gratitude for said service. Is it because such a service opens up the opportunity to interact with and read about interesting people? The general attitude of many here actually seems to argue against that point as well. And since this service is free (and don't you forget it!) capitalism doesn't seem to be at the heart of it either.

So I am at a loss.

I am also tired of being reminded that I am a leech. In my stay here I feel I have done a pretty good job recognizing that and respecting the powers that be who provide this service to me. I am grateful for it, but to be quite frank, beating me over the head with the fact that this is free for me doesn't help cultivate and/or deepen my sense of gratitude.

And I sincerely doubt the idiots who do act as though they have forgotten that fact even bother to listen to the reminders.

Comments
on Jun 01, 2004
I just come here and read blogs and comment. It's free right?
on Jun 01, 2004
By contributing to the community you are giving something back. It's not required, but you shouldn't feel as if you are leeching. This community actively seeks participation by the blogging public, both reading and writing. Individuals don't matter, but you can bet that management wants participation.
on Jun 01, 2004
You know, you would think that, wouldn't you. But if that was so then why would they say things such as

You can expect whatever you want from the admins but it really doesn't matter. You don't pay to be here. For the most part it doesn't matter to the admins if you leave. There are plenty of new people coming in all the time. Too many people here overestimate their self importance to JU. Plenty would have a much better time here if they would just get over themselves.
(JillUser in dharma's "Ranting and Raving" blog).

With comments like that how can one feel as anything other than a free-loader? I agree with the essence of what JillUser said, but the whole attitude of "You aren't paying to be here, so we really don't need you" doesn't cultivate gratitude for the service provided, or engender a desire to "give something back" by contributing. I didn't post a blog for a week simply because I was sick and tired of that sort of 'holier-than-thou" attitude.
on Jun 01, 2004
I'm not an admin so you can't blame the admins for what I said.  You are abviously not one of the people this was directed at.  Just as you are sick of hearing that this is a free site, a lot of us are sick of people trying to claim some kind of power over how things should be done here.  Again, none of the admins are asking for gratitude, they are just asking that people not be nasty toward them and use the service as a forum for said nastiness.
on Jun 01, 2004
Thanks for the clarification JillUser (I am a little fuzzy on who fits the admin bill and not-other than Brad!). My point though is as stated above. I really don't think the constant reminders ever even phase those who are prone to nastiness. They just come across as conceited to those of us who both remember whose site this is and strive to respect that. Thanks again for your comment.
on Jun 01, 2004

Actually I think the site will eventually be run according to capitalistic drives. Brad's company is a business and blogging drives this sites traffic. So it is only natural for money to be made eventually from it. Why do I blog here? Easy, I blog on this site because it provides a centralized point for others to read others. Simple. I *want* other folks to read what I post. I won't pretend that I don't get a kick out of every comment on an article I have written or everytime someone responds to a comment I have made. I love having folks read my thoughts and then having them tell me what they think of them. Livejournal and other sites provide the space for this to happen but they don't provide the audience. JU does and so whenever this site *does* go to a paid account status (probably mingled with free accounts too) I will be right up there in line to pay. Until then though, we *are* just leeches of another man's pocketbook and I won't be taking to calling him names or defendign others who do (and then display a total lack of sensiblility when they do).

 

Wow this got too long but I enjoyed your article immensely and can certainly see your point even if I do not *totally* agree.

on Jun 01, 2004

I don't consider anyone a leech.  There is an open invitation to all to have a blog here and participate.

I liken it to a big friendly party that everyone is invited to. The only thing we ask is that people try to treat each other with some civility and respect and not treat the hosts as servants.

on Jun 01, 2004

really don't think the constant reminders ever even phase those who are prone to nastiness


No, I don't think that they do either.  In fact, I think that sometimes it adds fuel to the fire.  This too shall pass, Dev.  People will either get tired or get banned...either way, they'll go away.


I'm with Greywar.  When it comes time to pay, I'll be right up there at the head of the line. 

on Jun 01, 2004
*Bangs glass on table*

"Brad, oh Brad?!? Come on man, can't you fill this thing up? Grrr, dang lazy admins!"

Thanks for commenting to everyone. I think it was just something I needed to say, get out, and then move on.
on Jun 01, 2004
I see where you are coming from BlueDev.  You seem like a level headed person with a good sense of humor.  I for one am glad you are part of the JU community.
on Jun 01, 2004

(I am a little fuzzy on who fits the admin bill and not-other than Brad!).

If you click on a user's profile, it will say what access level they are at.  As far as admins that you see all the time, it's mainly Brad and I.  However, there are more, they just aren't as "vocal"

on Jun 01, 2004
Okay, okay, fuzzy and lazy! You busted me KarmaGirl! I suppose next time I will do a little better.
on Jun 01, 2004
I liken it to a big friendly party that everyone is invited to. The only thing we ask is that people try to treat each other with some civility and respect and not treat the hosts as servants.


BAM!!!
on Jul 13, 2004
I'm with Greywar. When it comes time to pay, I'll be right up there at the head of the line.


Well, the pushers always give you the first "taste" for free... that's how they hook new customers.