I have seen Wil and Grace a few times.  I love Karen Walker!  She is just so mean and evil!  I like that in women.

But as to your premise, yes that would garner a lot more awards, but it would not garner a greater audience.  Critically aclaimed movies are the way they like to tweak our noses as in "You are too stupid and boorish to understand culture!".

I sure am.  I go to the movies for entertainment, not to have your culture rammed down my throat.

I was thinking about this the other day.  It seems as if gay people are defined by their sexuality.  Hetrosexuals are just regular people, I mean you don't hear the media proclaiming 'this new comedy about straight people is just fabulous' very often, do you?  No, it's 'that comedy about gays is just so funny!'.

I often wonder what the world would be like if we all were defined by our sexual preference.  We'd be introduced not as Sandra or Derek, but 'Sandra who prefers the missionary' or Derek who' likes it doggy-style'. 

The one thing that gets on my nerves is the sector of gay people who have to be in your face about their sexual prefence.  I'm never given a chance to know the person behind the homosexuality; they're too busy shouting to the world (either vocally or by their actions) that they're gay to make any kind of friendships or forge any relationships with people who don't share their sexual inclination.

I'd like to get to know the PERSON, not the sexual identity.

'Now, I haven't seen this movie'

Are you really complaining about a film you haven't seen, or could it just be how the media represents it?

or could it just be how the media represents it?

Um, that was the entire point of the article: how the media represents anything with homosexuals in it.

'Um, that was the entire point of the article: how the media represents anything with homosexuals in it.'
Fair enough; but in that case, why do you target Hollywood in your closing line?

Fair enough; but in that case, why do you target Hollywood in your closing line?

Because they are buying the line?  He said "dont tell hollywood", not "stop hollywood from doing it".

Very poignant article, BlueDev, I generally agree.

I often wondered why all the fuss was made about 'Will & Grace' myself, aside from the gay characters. My wife is a fan of the show and while I don't find it particularly funny most of the time, I too enjoy the Karen Walker character. She is so good at being such a bitch.

IMHO if the movie is a well written, well directed and well acted then give a damn whether the characters are straight, gay or hermaphrodites. But the media loves to play these things up, sensationalising sexuality and turning from something natural into something 'newsworthy'.

I too enjoy the Karen Walker character. She is so good at being such a bitch.

Does this mean I am redeemed for liking Kenny G?

Fair enough; but in that case, why do you target Hollywood in your closing line?

How is Hollywood not a significant part of the media? Hollywoood made and marketed "Brokeback Mountain" (and other movies with homosexual characters) with the specific spin that it is a drama about "gay cowboys". Hollywood sensationalizes homosexuality as bad (or worse) than any other media outlet.

Dr. Guy:

But as to your premise, yes that would garner a lot more awards, but it would not garner a greater audience. Critically aclaimed movies are the way they like to tweak our noses as in "You are too stupid and boorish to understand culture!".

True, you probably have a point. Though, depending on the film or series, I do think the gay factor does attract a larger audience.

Dharma:

It seems as if gay people are defined by their sexuality. Hetrosexuals are just regular people, I mean you don't hear the media proclaiming 'this new comedy about straight people is just fabulous' very often, do you? No, it's 'that comedy about gays is just so funny!'.

Exactly! I can't help but think there is a silent majority of homosexual people who find this irritating at the very least. I am sure they just want to live without being labeled with everything they do.

Very poignant article, BlueDev, I generally agree.

Thanks Deference.

Maso:

IMHO if the movie is a well written, well directed and well acted then give a damn whether the characters are straight, gay or hermaphrodites.

Yup. I think it is ridiculous the way things get labeled based on some small aspect of the movie.

Reminds me of Spike Lee's dispargement of the Mystical Magical Negro. you know, The Green Mile and The Legend of Bagger Vance kinda thing. I think this is just a new twist on that same theme maybe.

When the "buzz" about this movie first started, I was talking to someone about it. He asked me if I planned on seeing it. When I told him "I doubt it", he asked, "why, I thought you liked westerns". He then accused me of being homophobic because I would probably go see it if it was "just a western."

Ok, nevermind that it's rated R (for sexual content) and I generally don't go to those movies. Nevermind that the key characters are gay (It never seemed to bother me that Jodi (on SOAP), or "George" on "My Best Friend's Wedding were prominant gay characters). But the movie ISN'T A WESTERN!

Apparently, the genre of "Western" has been redefined to pretty much "anything where the characters wear cowboy hats". Westerns are set in the last half of the 1800s, and take place anywhere in the world where Cowboys plied their trade (usually in the U.S., but there are some great "Westerns" that take place in the Australian Outback and parts of Europe (If anyone knows of any good ones that take place anywhere else, let me know!).

Sorry folks but two sheep workers coming to grips with their sexuality in 1963 doesn't qualify. I guess we should consider "The Cowboy Way", "The Electric Horseman" or "Urban Cowboy" "westerns".

The film might be the best film of the year, it may have the best writing, greatest acting and most powerful story of our time. If it does, then let the film stand on its own. If not, then all the "if you don't see it your a homophobe" "buzz" is nothing more than a way to "guilt" people into seeing it.

Reminds me of Spike Lee's dispargement of the Mystical Magical Negro. you know, The Green Mile and The Legend of Bagger Vance kinda thing. I think this is just a new twist on that same theme maybe.

You are probably right Shovelheat.

The film might be the best film of the year, it may have the best writing, greatest acting and most powerful story of our time. If it does, then let the film stand on its own. If not, then all the "if you don't see it your a homophobe" "buzz" is nothing more than a way to "guilt" people into seeing it.

Bingo.

Apparently, the genre of "Western" has been redefined to pretty much "anything where the characters wear cowboy hats".

That is a good point!  It is not a western.  It is a cowboy movie!  Ted gets a cookie!