PC vs. Mac

-or- the suit vs. the slacker

Published on May 23, 2006 By BlueDev In OS Wars

By now, I am sure most of us have seen the new round of Mac vs. PC commercials. You know, the one with the middle age, sort of uptight looking, fuddy-duddy dude in a suit representing a PC, and the young, hip, cool, laid-back dude in old jeans and a T-shirt representing a Mac.

I have seen a couple of variations, but they all focus on the same thing. They all are trying to convey the same message: Macs are just cool and "work", whereas PCs are out of touch, laborious and problematic. Of course, I find it odd that so much of the advertising lately is on the hardware (considering I am typing this entry on my Windows laptop with Intel Core Duo processors, an pretty nice ATI graphics card, more RAM than a Mac Book and a larger HD than a Mac Book, at easily a few hundred dollars lower cost).

Nevertheless, I am not a Mac hater. In fact, I fully anticipate owning a Mac someday, when I can afford to have one IN ADDITION to my Windows computers. But I have to admit, I really don't care for these new ads. They just seem like such a faulty use of details, that honestly, I think they are embarrassing. In that spirit I share the following (sorry, can't paste the image myself as it is not mine and I don't have permission to be pasting it):

An alternative comparison between PC dude and Mac dude.

I found this quite entertaining.

Comments (Page 14)

196

Dr Guy

on Jun 30, 2006

#190 by lolapoa
Fri, June 30, 2006 02:55 AM

I think he was talking about paragraphs. Just break up your sentences. And if an English teacher starts lecturing you on paragraph structure, I will smack her down!

Paragraphs are your friend. And your english is very good.

197

BlueDev

on Jul 01, 2006

ITS ALIVE!!!!! My ridiculous little post has taken on a live of its own it would seem.

198

Dr Guy

on Jul 01, 2006

ITS ALIVE!!!!! My ridiculous little post has taken on a live of its own it would seem.

We are waiting for the great God Dr Dev to return and Guide us!

199

lolapoa

on Jul 02, 2006

Thx BlueDev!! i work in a publicity agency and most of the time we have to traduce the ads, i'm appliying right now for the new pixar studio that is getting build here in mexico to edit and traduce some pieces of the animation films they make, hope i really get it, as i was the first generation of a new carreer in mexico that is called "interactive design", just grad a year ago, so lets see what happens...

it would be a dream for me, but i guess its hard from coming true

200

lolapoa

on Jul 02, 2006

Super Wizop Fuzzy Logic, did u spec it out with the quad powermac, a dual powermac, or simply an imac,just take point in that sometimes we dont compare things that are the same, in a case of a quad powermac, maybe the pc will have more RAM, but as far as procesing goes, the quad should be faster (i mean 4 cores....) and the vcard on macs dont work the same that with a pc, for instance, while running basic 30 rendering software for the 64 mb integrated intel vcard on the macbook (which is bad anyway) is more stable that running the same or similar program in the same vcard for pc, same goes with ram,osx is more efficent in that point,128 mb vcard for a mac is more than enough for medium rendering, but for instance, the powermac (dual, quad coming in a month) where we make the high dpi and large pixel ads for street use, has a xtremely high performance (dont know for sure specs, but it should be heavier that any internal pc one, its internal not external)i know its as hheavy as the external we have on a pc, so that's the point bout mac, gaming should go that close, even though mac has not much variety of games, something some ppl cant live without, i dont reall are a game freak, but to play good games, i have my ppc powered xbox 360, and take it from me, if they really wanted to make games on mac, they would certanly run better than on pc, its bout the OS mostly, but its not afforable as most of us use are macs for work and really dont play much.

201

Fuzzy Logic

on Jul 02, 2006

Only the Quad core 2.5 with a 7800 (closest in graphics performance to my 2 7600GTs) got anywhere near my framerates with UT2004. The spec of that machine pushes the price to four times the cost of my pc.

You may like your Mac, but they are just not value for money.

202

voo

on Jul 02, 2006

Only the Quad core 2.5 with a 7800 (closest in graphics performance to my 2 7600GTs) got anywhere near my framerates with UT2004.

I'm curious, how do you know this? Do you have a mate with a quad or... you visited a apple store...

Your x2 4400+ is 2.2 w/ 1mbL2.

The Quad is 2 dual-core 2.5, extra two cores over yours. Not a fair comparison is it? as the next model down would be on par Dual-core 2.3 w/ 1mbL2 per core.

You may like your Mac, but they are just not value for money.

The same happens with PC's. Look at games, soon as a big title is out your system is at half performance and the same again for the next future title. MS and game developers always seem to push the software to make you upgrade your hardware again and again, thats if you want to play the latest titles with no slow down.

It's not the first, soon as somebody upgrades their pc or gets a new one its outdated soon as its out the box.

I guess it really depends on what anybody does with their machine to make it value for money. As most people know in this game you can't keep up in this market without paying through the nose.

203

PurrBall

on Jul 02, 2006

the quad should be faster (i mean 4 cores....)

4 cores that are crap.

Meowy, i came to WC just to not get my mac book pro depressed with the LUNA theme, as i cant handle excel for mac, and its a program i use often at work, its the same as the one in pc, except all versions use de same formulas as the one in english for pc, and i only know how to use them in spanish LOL, and as i said, windows is a nice OS, and as i differ with all here, i accept that its good, sometimes unstable but good, what i really find interesting is how pc "likers" repell osX soo baad, even though is a great system as well...wonder why,maybe not the popular opinion is the correct one! Oh, and i mind saying again, well the mac ads are terribly rude, except from the hi im a pc, and im a pc too, that one has spark, dont blame apple, microsoft did in its time waaay more dirty things, that's how the market works, just search for QDOS, and see how dirty microsoft is.

Most of this discussion is about the hardware.. OK. Forgive me if this has already been stated, but there is a lot of hardware out there. A lot of hardware is crap. Some of the crap can also be plucked into a Mac as well as the PC.
On the software side, Windows has to be able to run on all this hardware that is out there. Mac OS only has to run on what Apple puts in their machines. Most likely if you pluck your OS X install DVD into your Dell or whatever you have, the install won't go so well and OS X will not boot. As we have found out with Windows.. hey! It can run on PC and Mac, without hacking the code!... because of its design to work on everything (except ENIAC, UNIVAC, etc). That's part of why it isnt as stable as Mac OS. But, OS X can crash too, it's happened to me.

Windows: Reliable, runs on anything you feed it.
Mac OS: Very reliable, only runs on specific configurations.

204

Fuzzy Logic

on Jul 02, 2006

The Quad is 2 dual-core 2.5, extra two cores over yours. Not a fair comparison is it? as the next model down would be on par Dual-core 2.3 w/ 1mbL2 per core

Exactly my point. The performance would be a fraction of my pc's at double the cost. The higher spec machine was chosen as a second comparison (see earlier post) because it came closest to my UT2004 framerates.

And no, I don't have any Mac buddies - the test results are all over the place, you just have to look

205

Fourth Letter

on Jul 03, 2006

Surely the whole point of this discussion is that before Mac went Intel inside you could spend twice as much on a mac and be happy that you had a unique (and as Steve Jobs always said before "better")architecture (IBM G5 people! Motorola G4 is like P3 speed)
However now that Steve and boys are shouting about how much better Intel's chips are (completely the opposite of what they were saying 12 months ago) you can now say HEY! that £1800 macbookpro has the same spec as my £800 Acer! And guess what the Acer runs OSX86 just as fast

206

lolapoa

on Jul 03, 2006

Well the g5 processor is not near to be crap, come on!!! i dont think u people know this, but the g5 processor is STILL better than the intel chip, only IBM doesnt put any interest on it whatsoever, plus, i dont think u have ever seen a powermac g5, but it uses a very high tech cooling system because the processor gets extremely hot,that was the bad point about it and made steve jobs quit from powerpc, and well, i dont know where u got that bout braggin that intel is better than g5, they dont even compare it! they say intel is 5x faster than the g4, which is outdated, steve DID say they took intel over amd or ibm cus they were having shipment and production problems with ibm, with the quad only in the line (and staying there for a long time, that's why the apps will come in universal binary) they have a really tough time getting the production line in time for apple.
Oh, can someone send me that 800 acer that has same specs as the MBP, i would surely like to see it.
BTW the quad is PPC, it doesnt work at the same framerates as an intel processor, its comparing a 300 horsepower bmw to a 300 horsepower truck, that's ur comparison, while it has speed, maybe torque is needed sometimes, and i guess ur pc is not a 2 dualcore processors. The quad g5 would be a server type processor for a pc, u can compare it with a server maybe?

OH, 12 moths ago they were giving developers p4 based macs in powermac casings for develpment of new software on OSX86, and OSX86 is able to run on a pc, but microsoft doesnt mind getting EFI emulators, beign able to format on the apple standard disk format, and get the drivers, just as apple did with bootcamp, microsoft is plain selfish, cus know most ppl will install osX on there pc,some ppl choose pc over mac cus of price, and beign able to install it on a cheaper pc would be a hit for them, bootcamp...welll most of the ppl who have it (including me) is cus its needed for their jobs, if not, i would not mind.

207

lolapoa

on Jul 03, 2006

OH & btw, its good to do some reasearch first on what the computer offers u, look at the link

http://www.apple.com/powermac/dualcore.html

I hope ur pc will manage 4tb of ram in the near future NOT!

208

PurrBall

on Jul 03, 2006

Vista will support EFI.

I hope ur pc will manage 4tb of ram in the near future NOT!

Don't worry we will.

209

lolapoa

on Jul 03, 2006

well show me a pc which can handle de 4tb ram right now, plus as far as i know, vista is still bios! QUOTE Windows XP, and even the upcoming Vista, are stuck in the 1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. Sorry to dissapoint u, maybe happened the same with WINFS? or with the 2000,0000,0000 promises they cut off vista.leopard might not me major, as some pc guys use as excuse, but vista is surely not the change between OS 9 to OSX im sorry, but its simply the truth.

210

lolapoa

on Jul 03, 2006

i dont even know a entry level same price server pc based that may handle that much expansion...

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