lolapoa:  I will say this only once.

You, sir, are an idiot.

Please just stop making that point even more obvious.  The only one you are hurting with your illiterate rants is yourself.  You have lost any and all credibility due to your faulty use of details and your inability to see beyond the tip of your nose. 

In the beginning, this was a humorous and lighthearted post (I know because I posted it) poking fun at what I believe to be a lame ad campaign.  As I persumed it would, it spiralled out of control as people felt the need to "educate" the misguided masses.

Just like Apple's weak (and dishonest) ad campaign, you really aren't going to change anyone's mind, unless it is about the quality of education you may or may not have gained. 

So stop.  Just stop.  I am embarrased for you, and I doubt I am alone.

And we await the benovelence of Dr. Dev's Return!

Just for you Dr. Guy.

ok ok, yeesh, give a guy a break

I admit the adverts and the alternative you found is amusing and therefore i shall say no more

ok ok, yeesh, give a guy a break

I will gladly give the guy a break when he chooses to demonstrate a modicum of common sense.

demonstrate a modicum of common sense.

'common sense' is really not all that common.

It's actually an absurd phrase....

How true, Jafo...common sense can't be bought in stores, found growing on trees or discarded on the local tip...so generally, those without never actually acquire it.

Here's one for ya...yet another smug Mac ad... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7919991136779006253 ...one that begins the words: Re-introducing the Real Windows Vista.

It begins with a Vista-like GUI, but naturally goes on to slam Vista whilst lauding the virtues of OS-X (complete with running commentary from smug little prick).

I want to own a Mac, and I'm going to, but what if turning it on activates the smug gene and I become one of those arrogant Mac zealots who lives, breathes and shits Mac...has Steve Jobs on their Christmas card list. Heaven forbid, that I could end up spending sleepless nights counting iMacs jumping over angelic clouds to drift off into the land of nod

starkers, your link has an error, there's a period at the end which needs to be deleted, then it's ok

starkers, your link has an error, there's a period at the end which needs to be deleted, then it's ok

Tried to fix it but got message to say I'm not authorized to edit comment. Hopefully Jafo will be able to do so for me.

I fixed it.  The link works now.

 

On the graphics side..

1. MacBooks have integrated graphics also.
2. I ran Vista with full Aero and effects on a GeForce 5200 fine. I do have a 6200 now, mostly for gaming.

Lolapoa, just stop and get on with life.

Steve Jobs on their Christmas card list.

Hehe.

I fixed it. The link works now.

Thank you, ID, it's appreciated.

I ran Vista with full Aero and effects on a GeForce 5200 fine. I do have a 6200 now, mostly for gaming.

My 6200 64meg runs it admirably, and given that it's a lower end card, me thinks Mac zealots use the 'but it won't run' theory/slur to de-value Vista while espousing overly embellished MAC OS-X specs to dissuade would be Windows Customers.....

The World must be a very lonely place for the Mac zealot....being that if you give 'em a word in edgeways to sprout about Macs, you never shut 'em up again (case in point: lolapoa ) ....given they were placed on the endangered species list for being a percentage of a minority market share of just 10%

Sooo, why does this extaordinary phenomenon occur...the Mac zealot who'd talk under water with a mouthful of marbles to convince you their love of all that is Mac is valid? Could it be there's not enough of 'em to go around and they're unable to form a social network of mutual interest, and if they espy a vacant ear, they'll attach themselves to the lobe, much like a limpet to a rock, to acquire an audience that otherwise would not be captive?????

Personally, given his vast personal wealth, me thinks Steve Jobs should set up rehab clinics worldwide for these poor souls who've faithfully espoused everything Mac and placed him on their Christmas card list...it's the least he could do, and I'd have somewhere to go if the Mac gene is activated when I get mine and start wearing 'Apple is Best' tee-shirts, caps and underwear.

UMMM....HELLO, DID I SAY NVIDA? NOOOOO DID I SAY ATI...NOOOO I SAID INTEL INTEGRATED GRAPHCIS!!! HAS SOMEONE MENTION IT NOOOOOO, its not a bad vcard, but in MY LAP TOP did not work as it should with vista, and hey,IDIOT, windows is nice, but u guys THINK IN A BOX, come on!!! get out of the box,and YES, apples ads ARE DISHONEST, but since when has microsoft been so honest, can someone answer that? and as i said, u guys stick with ur pc's, tweak the GUI and make it look like os x or something that u like, why don't u get linux and build ur own shell.... IDIOT is the guy that sticks with a idea, IDIOT is NOT a person with various points of view, the apple ads disgust me i must say, but it makes me sick how many times has microsoft been doing fraudulent acts (can anyone say
"court")im NOT saying windows is shit, im saying i hate the idea my "recent cutting edge" pc will run vista like crap cus the vcard is not compatible, and probably when they fix it i already bought a new one, windows does buisness work very good, and that's what is meant to do. I think OSX does have its benefits, it does better graph rendering (can anybody say "cars" "the incredibles" "PIXAR")but it surelly makes worksheets, and various other things a pain in the ass. So its all on accepting the limitations of each OS, and unfortunatelly, some ZEALOTS dont.

Oh and by the way not everuthing MAC or APPLE is lovable, I hate the Ipod, well its just me, as its the wonders of every pc too! oh and the old flat screens looked like if u pushed a little it would fall off, and hated that too, and mac os 9 Definite failure,it might have only 10% of the market share, but i still say,¿why settle with the SAME? guess it might seem unique using a mac then! Im still working on windows vista beta 2 on my Mac book Pro, smooooth, nice system, stolen Exposè (sorry but its the truth) and runs smoother than any other windows OS iv'e used even in beta stage.

lolapoa  ...I think determining what are the failings or strengths between Vista and OSX is an utterly pointless exercise.

No-one publicly [or probably anywhere else] has anything BUT a Beta of Vista to compare with a released product.  Drawing conclusions from this is profoundly flawed.

Needless to say many people on this site have both Macs AND PCs but, since Wincustomize.com is actually Windows-centric you are really pushing the proverbial uphill against a ground-swell of opposing opinion [and/or more experienced], particularly when much of what you expound is not based in perhaps even a semblance of reality.

So you have a laptop of dubious quality that does not run a Beta of an OS well.  That much has been established.

I have a bicycle that would not win the Tour De France. 

Both statements have about as much validity in the debate of whose OS is superior.

Not that it actually matters one iota either way....

Hello everyone,

This is coming from a person who uses a MAC all day for work in an ad agency(sencond largest in the world) and who owns 3 PC's and one Mac.
First, I prefer the PC a thousand times than the MAC.

To make sure everyone undertand what kind hardware I am using here are the specs.
AT WORK: Dual 2.3GHZ G5, 6GB of Ram (yes 6), 250GB Hard drive, GeForce 7800GT, 23" Display.
AT HOME: AMD64 X2 4200+ (Dual core 2.2GHZ), 2GB of Ram, 4x 250GB Hard drives, Geforce 7900GT, Dell 20" widescreen and Samsung 17" Flatpanels.

Here are my points:
The MAC running FASTER than a PC? No way is that true. I use Photoshop at work along with Flash, Dreamwever, After Effects, and some times Premire. Along with those programs we use little apps like Swift 3D etc, Sorenson Squeeze, and some audio apps (MP3 trimmer) and Apple Loops.

While the G5 IS fast but it is not faster than a PC. When rendering using After Effects the MAC is some time 25% slower than the PC. Even using a small little 3D app like Swift 3D the MAC was 2 hours slower rendering a 300 frame simple rotating logo animation with lighting and textures than my PC. I can go on and on, Photoshop takes minutes longer to open multiple photos at a time than the PC, MAYA run much slower on a MAC, 3D Max is NOT available on a MAC, saving files to the harddrive is slower, messy windows everywhere. Not to mention how HOT that thing runs. These are factors that matter when actually "using a computer". I do not care about how "pretty the mac looks" all I care is about performance. There is no way that a MAC is faster than a PC with comparable hardware. I experience it everyday. I can prove it, run multiple test and post screen shots.

To the MAC's credit it does have a few little nifty features as other have mentioned. But, and this is a fact. The MAC runs Windows XP "BETTER" than it does it's own operating system. The MAC "hides" alot of admin features, settings, amoung other things from the user to protect itself, granted. But it sucks for a power user.

Lastly, here are some great things about owning a PC. A huge amount of software is available for the PC than on a MAC. Programs are made and optimized for PC's first than ported over to the MAC (if you are lucky).You can find quick answers to almost any problem for a PC than on a MAC, and no it's not because you have less problems because I often have to use my Ctl+AppleKey+Esc to force quite my programs. We have Windows Blinds . You have Shapeshifter (I use it). It sucks! We can make our PC's "personal". You have to live with OS X. We have loads of hardware available to us. You do not. Firewire is useless, USB 2.0 is faster. We CAN have "pretty" PC's but I prefer my coolermaster CM Stacker 830 case. This debate can go on forever and so can I but as the post says it's a matter of preference and as my better performing, better hardware and more, more software, power user friendly, stable OS (in my case), wonderful XP PC choice. I prefer MY "Personal Computer".

Thank you all for this great post. I hope I do not angry anyone.

Choices, weird on the slow rendering....pretty weird, i work in a animation studio (largest in the world) and i have no slow rendering in any of are common used, same company made and branded software, even though we DO use pc, is for the paper work and other goodies the XP is good at.No, there is much less apps for OSX, and u can change the look, even though most of the time pc guys make their xp look like the aqua, its just likable. What i dont get is how small the monitor in ur job is, what do u do in the mac? the ads made by us are made in much more capable computers, specailly the spectacular street ads, but what can i say, its just in choices, if ur making billboards tha mac is not near to be enough, and with that display i think thats not viable...but i must say, macromedia still runs better in windows, adobe right now does cus its not universal binary but will soon recover the original speed and its faster than a pc.And take point the software ur using is simplly the standard in everything its meant for, im not sure if u have seen the pixar own software for rendering, but is surelly better than 3dsmax, even though if i name some u will probably never heard of them, there privately own label software. bet that wont work as fast on a pc, i guess...never really tried it.